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Are Mormons Christians?


          I hesitated in writing this because of the condemnation I expect to receive.  I am not intending to in any way put down the Mormon followers as individuals.  I believe, from all I have seen, they try to be a moral people, earnest in their beliefs and wish to do well in their undertakings.  The only problem I have with Mormonism is that they claim to be Christian, and therefore mislead people who do not study the truth about their religion.  Those who have come out of the Mormon Church have quite a different view than that which the Mormon web site represents. The only real danger I see in Mormonism is that people could be lead away from true salvation in Jesus, the Christ. A recent survey showed that 51% of Americans think that Mormonism is a Christian religion, while 32% think it is not. Among Evangelical Protestants 47% say Mormonism is a Christian religion and 39% say it is not.[1] It is my belief this is due to the deliberate misrepresentations presented on their web sites to sound more like Biblical Christianity and attract more converts.  The Bible says that some will come that could fool even the elect.[2]

          The following is copied form the Mormon web site http://mormon.org/faq/mormon-church/?CID=50062.  What is on the web site is in black, and my insertions and or additions are in red and underlined. I did not correct the spelling and grammar mistakes on their web site

          Below the web site information, I have included information given by people who were Mormons, and have converted to Christianity, as well as quotes by famous Mormons.

Why do some call Mormonism a cult?


One definition listed for ‘cult’ in Webster’s Dictionary is “a religion regarded as unorthodox (or spurious)[3].” Since the roots of Mormonism are not a break off from the Catholic or Protestant churches, it is seen by some as “unorthodox.”  For example, the LDS definition of the Godhead differs from the Nicene Creed accepted by most Catholic or Protestant churches. The “cult” label is usually applied by Church opponents attempting to criticize or discredit the Church (or warn people about the apostasy). However, sometimes it’s simply a matter of characterization that has grown up over time by the lack of understanding. Such misunderstandings often vanish when people begin to realize the commonality of what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints really teaches and believes. That Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that He is the Savior and Redeemer of the world whom we love and worship. ( In reality Mormons believe that Jesus was a god just like you and I are gods.) When people begin to see and recognize these things about Mormons, then their opinion of the Church usually changes, and old beliefs are replaced with new understanding.

Read other answers contributed by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Answers are the sole responsibility of the members.

Lynn answered…
Some call Mormonism a cult because it is not a "traditional" Christian church. The primary complaint of the "traditionalists" (generally Protestant Churches) is that we do not believe in the doctrine of the trinity as it relates to the nature of the Godhead. The doctrine of the trinity was codified in the Nicene Creed in 325 AD, many years after the death of Christ (Christ did not remain dead: if Jesus had not risen from the dead, there would be no Christianity) and the Apostles. It basically says that the Godhead, The Father, Son and Holy Ghost, are one being in "substance." (In reality the Bible clearly expresses the triune aspects of the One True and Living God.)  Since Mormonism does not accept this doctrine, they say we believe in a different Christ than they do and therefore are a cult. It is curious that this "trinitarian" doctrine is not taught anywhere in the Bible.  (“Baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost”, among other references).[4]

Mormons believe the Bible (among other ‘scriptures’) is the Word of God. The Bible (and the early church established by Jesus (in conjunction with the Father and the Holy Spirit) and His Apostles) teaches that the Godhead indeed consists of The Father, Son and Holy Ghost. But, it teaches that they are: 1) three distinct individuals as expressed in Acts 7:54-60 where Stephen is being stoned. "He being filled with the Holy Ghost looked up steadfastly into heaven and saw Jesus standing on the right hand of God." And it teaches 2) they are one in purpose, not in substance (John 17 where Jesus offers his intercessory prayer, particularly verses 20-23.) This is what Mormons believe. ( Jesus said that He and the Father are one.)

It is noteworthy that the early Christians were called the "sect of the Nazarenes" (Acts 24:5) and were considered a cult by the Sadducees and Pharisees, the predominant religions of the day. ( They could then have been referred to as a sect of Judaism, and in fact are today)
Some call Mormonism a cult because it is not a "traditional" Christian church. The primary complaint of the "traditionalists" (generally Protestant Churches) is that we do not believe in the doctrine of the trinity as it relates to the nature of the Godhead. The doctrine of the trinity was codified in the Nicene Creed in 325 AD, many years after the death of Christ and the Apostles. It basically says that the Godhead, The Father, Son and Holy Ghost, are one being in "substance." Since Mormonism does not accept this doctrine, they say we believe in a different Christ than they do and therefore are a cult. It is curious that this "trinitarian" doctrine is not taught anywhere in the Bible.

Mormons believe the Bible is the Word of God. The Bible (and the early church established by Jesus and His Apostles) teaches that the Godhead indeed consists of The Father, Son and Holy Ghost. But, it teaches that they are: 1) three distinct individuals as expressed in Acts 7:54-60 where Stephen is being stoned. "He being filled with the Holy Ghost looked up steadfastly into heaven and saw Jesus standing on the right hand of God." And it teaches 2) they are one in purpose, not in substance (John 17 where Jesus offers his intercessory prayer, particularly verses 20-23.) This is what Mormons believe.

It is noteworthy that the early Christians were called the "sect of the Nazarenes" (Acts 24:5) and were considered a cult by the Sadducees and Pharisees, the predominant religions of the day.
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Garth answered…
I just saw news footage where a minister called the Mormon Church a ‘cult’ and the news commentator turned around and said it wasn’t. The news commentator was right. One definition listed for ‘cult’ in Webster’s Dictionary is “a religion regarded as unorthodox.” ‘Unorthodox’ according to whom? Catholicism and over 2000 churches who broke off of the Catholic Church or the original teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ? We believe some of the original doctrines contained in the original Church of Jesus Christ fell into apostasy and were changed by men (this in fact is what the Moslems say). One example is the definition of the Godhead as laid out in the Nicene and Athanasian Creeds that are widely accepted by most Catholic and Protestant churches today. We believe the Godhead is made up of three separate and distinct individuals that are one in purpose not in body. When I read about the atonement in Matthew 26:39 (KJV), “And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt” I believe God the Father, Jesus Christ, Peter and the other Apostles would find the teaching that ‘Jesus Christ was praying to himself’ as quite ‘unorthodox’.  (God swore by Himself as there was none higher).[5]  I choose to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, not the teachings of men…regardless of the names they choose to call us. (Obviously, Mormons would say that water, steam and ice are the same in purpose but not the same substance. We live in a three-dimensional world. All physical objects have a certain height, width, and depth)[6].
I just saw news footage where a minister called the Mormon Church a ‘cult’ and the news commentator turned around and said it wasn’t. The news commentator was right. One definition listed for ‘cult’ in Webster’s Dictionary is “a religion regarded as unorthodox.” ‘Unorthodox’ according to whom? Catholicism and over 2000 churches who broke off of the Catholic Church or the original teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ? We believe some of the original doctrines contained in the original Church of Jesus Christ fell into apostasy and were changed by men. One example is the definition of the Godhead as laid out in the Nicene and Athanasian Creeds that are widely accepted by most Catholic and Protestant churches today. We believe the Godhead is made up of three separate and distinct individuals that are one in purpose not in body. When I read about the atonement in Matthew 26:39 (KJV), “And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt” I believe God the Father, Jesus Christ, Peter and the other Apostles would find the teaching that ‘Jesus Christ was praying to himself’ as quite ‘unorthodox’. I choose to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, not the teachings of men…regardless of the names they choose to call us.
Jeff answered…
I think some call Mormonism a cult mainly because they don't understand what it's about. Before I was a Mormon, I used to believe that Mormons did not believe in the Bible (They do say they believe in the Bible; as well as the Book of Mormon, The Pearl of Great Price, The book of Doctrines and Covenants, and the temple preparation manuals; all as scripture or equivelant to scripture) in Jesus Christ and a good deal of other things. I didn't realize how incorrect I was. There have been some pretty amazing things that have happened in conjunction with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and if you don't get the whole picture, then some of the stuff can sound pretty odd, and , and I think that's where I was before.
An example I sometimes use is: if someone told you that he had cut a man with a knife, from that limited piece of information, you'd probably report him for stabbing someone. But if you found out that this someone was a Doctor, and that he was preforming a surgery to save a man's life, having the full story completely changes your perspective on the situation.
In regards to the church I belong to, once I did have the whole story, I could see that Mormons were not cultish, but that they really are in fact Christians. I've even found that I have a stronger love of the the core things I believed before I was a Mormon, like the Bible and Jesus Christ (Mormons do not believe that Jesus was the only son of God, and that the Bible is subject to not being correct).   I think some call Mormonism a cult mainly because they don't understand what it's about. Before I was a Mormon, I used to believe that Mormons did not believe in the Bible, in Jesus Christ and a good deal of other things. I didn't realize how incorrect I was. There have been some pretty amazing things that have happened in conjunction with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and if you don't get the whole picture, then some of the stuff can sound pretty odd, and I think that's where I was before.
An example I sometimes use is: if someone told you that he had cut a man with a knife, from that limited piece of information, you'd probably report him for stabbing someone. But if you found out that this someone was a Doctor, and that he was preforming a surgery to save a man's life, having the full story completely changes your perspective on the situation.
In regards to the church I belong to, once I did have the whole story, I could see that Mormons were not cultish, but that they really are in fact Christians. I've even found that I have a stronger love of the the core things I believed before I was a Mormon, like the Bible and Jesus Christ.
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Dan answered…
I grew up thinking, at one point, Mormonism was cult. I made this assertion based on nothing but hearsay, and didn't actually know any tenets of the LDS faith. Now, as a person who has thoroughly investigated the sincerity and divine truthfulness of this Church, I can resoundingly say that the Church of Jesus Christ is by no means a cult. I find that the major reason why people think Mormonism is a cult is simply due to a lack of understanding of the Church. For instance, not many people really know that Mormons believe in and strive to be closer to Jesus Christ we believe Him to be our personal savior and redeemer of the world. We read the Bible and know it to be the word of God. We take communion. We have an unpaid clergy. We live to serve others as Christ would have done.  (Although, by their deception, they actually keep people from knowing the true Christ of the Bible.)I grew up thinking, at one point, Mormonism was cult. I made this assertion based on nothing but hearsay, and didn't actually know any tenets of the LDS faith. Now, as a person who has thoroughly investigated the sincerity and divine truthfulness of this Church, I can resoundingly say that the Church of Jesus Christ is by no means a cult. I find that the major reason why people think Mormonism is a cult is simply due to a lack of understanding of the Church. For instance, not many people really know that Mormons believe in and strive to be closer to Jesus Christ we believe Him to be our personal savior and redeemer of the world. We read the Bible and know it to be the word of God. We take communion. We have an unpaid clergy. We live to serve others as Christ would have done.

When people take the time to understand what Mormonism is really all about, like I did, they will understand that Mormons are normal people with normal problems, and each of us relies on God to be a better, more Christlike person.
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Michael answered…
Because we believe in continuing revelation (all revelation must be in line with and verified by the Bible – all [Biblical] scripture is given for instruction, correction and reproof[7]) through Prophets as in the days of old, i.e. Moses, Abraham, this is uncomfortable for some people because media has made our Prophets seem like evil men leading people astray, when they are just trying to teach us correct principles so that one day we all may return to live with our Father in Heaven (or live as a father in heaven). Another reason is because we believe in the sacred nature of temples, meaning only worthy members may enter the Temple so people think that evil rituals are performed. However, in reality the nature of the temple is uplifting and beautiful and gives us clarity to what the purpose of life is, the plan of salvation, and other topics such as life, death, and the atonement of Christ. The temple is not "secret, but it is sacred. However, we encourage all to live so that they may one day enter the temple.  (The temples (churches) in the Bible were open to all believers)
Because we believe in continuing revelation through Prophets as in the days of old, i.e. Moses, Abraham, this is uncomfortable for some people because media has made our Prophets seem like evil men leading people astray, when they are just trying to teach us correct principles so that one day we all may return to live with our Father in Heaven.

Another reason is because we believe in the sacred nature of temples, meaning only worthy members may enter the Temple so people think that evil rituals are performed. However, in reality the nature of the temple is uplifting and beautiful and gives us clarity to what the purpose of life is, the plan of salvation, and other topics such as life, death, and the atonement of Christ. The temple is not "secret, but it is sacred. However, we encourage all to live so that they may one day enter the temple.

http//www.mormon.org/videos/
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           Stephen  answered....
… SIn my opinion the real reason people say the Mormon Church is a cult because they don't understand. saying that it is a cult is an easy way to excuse themselves from learn more about it. Its like saying "sushi is slimy raw dead fish" or "computers are of the devil" its easy not to try / learn about stuff if you pair it with a negative word like "devil" or " slimy raw dead fish" ( In a way he is right.  If you don’t know what Biblical Christianity is, you won’t know the difference between Mormonism and Christianity.)

Suzanne answered…
I don't know. Quite honestly when labels are used I think this comes from someone's desire to quickly explain away something that they don't understand. If they really took a hard look at the church it would be easy to tell that Mormons do not blindly follow any human being. I think maybe someone who might use that label could look at the level of commitment and obedience found among the members of this church and casually explain this away as blind obedience. They certainly do not see the personal struggles and the effort that maintaining a personal relationship with God requires. (In truth it is by Faith, not works so that no man could boast).[8]  Like most Mormons I think, I do what I do out of devotion and love. It may start out as duty and habit, but as I have come to know God and His mercy and love (the big picture) I can't help but want to keep the commandments. I don't follow a person, I follow God and His Son and they help me every step of the way
I don't know. Quite honestly when labels are used I think this comes from someone's desire to quickly explain away something that they don't understand. If they really took a hard look at the church it would be easy to tell that Mormons do not blindly follow any human being. I think maybe someone who might use that label could look at the level of commitment and obedience found among the members of this church and casually explain this away as blind obedience. They certainly do not see the personal struggles and the effort that maintaining a personal relationship with God requires. Like most Mormons I think, I do what I do out of devotion and love. It may start out as duty and habit, but as I have come to know God and His mercy and love (the big picture) I can't help but want to keep the commandments. I don't follow a person, I follow God and His Son and they help me every step of the way.
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Kevin answered…
I suppose that new and different things have always been a challenge for some. It seems possible that the New Testament Christians might also have been called a cult: they were few in number, taught new, or at least different, doctrines and were lead by strong, charismatic leaders (a study of the early apostles like Peter or Paul bears this out).
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (often called the Mormon church) follows the teachings of Jesus Christ as contained in the Bible and the Book of Mormon (which is an addition to the inspred word of God). We do not worship our founding prophet (Joseph Smith) or our current prophet (Thomas S. Monson). We teach that men are saved by the grace of Jesus Christ and his atoning sacrice on the cross and that as we strive to follow Him and keep His commandments, that redemption becomes personal.

If others persist in defining the Church * (of Mormon) as a cult, in spite of our rather obvious Christian beliefs and doctrines (having a semblance of the truth, but not the power thereof[9]), then we will simply have to agree to disagree.
I suppose that new and different things have always been a challenge for some. It seems possible that the New Testament Christians might also have been called a cult: they were few in number, taught new, or at least different, doctrines and were lead by strong, charismatic leaders (a study of the early apostles like Peter or Paul bears this out).

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (often called the Mormon church) follows the teachings of Jesus Christ as contained in the Bible and the Book of Mormon. We do not worship our founding prophet (Joseph Smith) or our current prophet (Thomas S. Monson). We teach that men are saved by the grace of Jesus Christ and his atoning sacrice on the cross and that as we strive to follow Him and keep His commandments, that redemption becomes personal.

If others persist in defining the Church as a cult, in spite of our rather obvious Christian beliefs and doctrines, then we will simply have to agree to disagree.
 
Terry answered…
Mostly because of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge about the Church. It's easier for people to believe what they hear from other people (who heard it from someone else, who heard it from another person that read it on the Internet...) instead of making an effort to find out from the source. In addition, there are small, secretive groups that are not part of our Church that use a modified form of the name of the Church for their own group, and have practices that are similar to our worship services and practices (which one is the true Church of Mormon?). These groups may be involved in illegal activities, especially polygamy (The Mormon Church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, believes you must have one or more wives in order to populate the world you will be god of, when and if you qualify for that to happen), and when the media reports on them, they do not make an effort to distinguish between these groups and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Mostly because of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge about the Church. It's easier for people to believe what they hear from other people (who heard it from someone else, who heard it from another person that read it on the Internet...) instead of making an effort to find out from the source.

In addition, there are small, secretive groups that are not part of our Church that use a modified form of the name of the Church for their own group, and have practices that are similar to our worship services and practices. These groups may be involved in illegal activities, especially polygamy, and when the media reports on them, they do not make an effort to distinguish between these groups and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Elizabeth answered…
It's funny, I used to call the Mormon Church a cult too. I just didn't understand it.Mormonism isn't weird or strange. Its members don't perform satanic rituals or brainwash teenage boys into walking around from door to door in suits and name tags (nor is anyone forced to -- everyone who chooses to serve a mission does so out of their own free will and choice).I used to call Mormonism a cult because it seemed foreign and unfamiliar, which I deemed scary. The same thing happened to Jesus' first followers as well: they were accused of cult worship too! Others who understood little of what Mormons truly believe told me lies about so-called "practices" in the church which, in reality, were just made-up stories and falsehoods intended to give the church a bad name.
When it comes down to it, a lot of people just don't understand this church, and lies about it spread like wildfire. Mormons believe that Jesus is the Christ. He is the Savior and the Redeemer of the world, plain and simple.
Is that so weird or cultish?
Today, there are close to fourteen million members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints worldwide, and more live outside of the United States than inside. That doesn't seem very cult-like to me! (There are well over a billion Christians living all over the world. Do numbers and place of residence really mean anything?  The early Christian church started with just a little over 500 followers.

Why do Mormons perform baptisms for the dead

Jesus Himself, though without sin, was baptized to fulfill all righteousness and to show the way for all mankind (see Matthew 3:13-17 13Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.; 2 Nephi 31:5-12 Esentially says that you must be baptized in order to ‘fulfill all righteousness’, which the Bible says was only possible for Jesus to do.  ). Thus, baptism is essential for salvation in the kingdom of God. Baptism is a sign of your rebirth and acceptance of Jesus as your Lord, not an additional essential ingredient required for salvation.  Salvation is by faith and faith alone; not by works. We learn in the New Testament that baptisms for the dead were done during the Apostle Paul’s time (see 1 Corinthians 15:29 In this verse,Paul was not condoning the baptism of the dead but rather arguing that the resurrection of the dead is a reality. “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.”[10]). This practice has been restored with the establishment of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Prophet Joseph Smith first taught about the ordinance of baptism for the dead during a funeral sermon in August 1840. He read much of 1 Corinthians 15, including verse 29, and announced that the Lord would permit Church members to be baptized in behalf of their friends and relatives who had departed this life. He told them “the plan of salvation was calculated to save all who were willing to obey the requirements of the law of God” (Journal History of the Church, 15 Aug. 1840).

Because all who have lived on the earth have not had the opportunity to be baptized by proper authority (what authority?) during life on earth, baptisms may be performed by proxy, meaning a living person may be baptized in behalf of a deceased person. Baptisms for the dead are performed by Church members in temples throughout the world. People have occasionally wondered if the mortal remains of the deceased are somehow disturbed in this process; they are not. The person acting as a proxy uses only the name of the deceased. To prevent duplication the Church keeps a record of the deceased persons who have been baptized. Some have misunderstood that when baptisms for the dead are performed the names of deceased persons are being added to the membership records of the Church. This is not the case.

What do Mormons believe about Jesus Christ? Do Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?


Jesus Christ is the literal Son of God. His birth, life, death, and resurrection fulfilled the many prophecies contained in the scriptures concerning the coming of a (The) Savior. He was (is) the Creator, He is our Savior, and He will be our Judge (see Isaiah 9:6, 53:3-7; Psalms 22:16-18).

Under the direction of our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ created the earth (John 1:10; Hebrews 1:2). God, the trinity, created the heavens and the earth.

When Jesus lived on the earth (approximately 2,000 years ago), He led a perfect life. He taught by word and example how people should live in love of God and others.

Through His suffering in the Garden of Gethsemane (Jesus didn’t suffer physically in the garden; it was a spiritual suffering.  He suffered physically at the hands of the Jewush authorities and the Romans.)and by giving His life on the cross—that is, by performing the Atonement —Jesus Christ saves us from our sins (1 Peter 2:21) as we follow Him. Because of the Atonement, you can be forgiven of your sins when you sincerely repent (Book of Mormon, Mosiah 26:30). There is only one way to be forgiven of your sins. By accepting, by faith, the Grace of Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you are saved. You are saved by Grace, not by works.

Through His Resurrection, Jesus Christ saved us from death. Because He overcame death, we will all (who according to John 3:16 and Romans 10:9 accept the gift of Christ) be given the gift of resurrection, that is to say our spirits will be eternally (be given new, heavenly bodies) re-united with our bodies (Acts 24:15; 1 Corinthians 15:22). When life on this earth is over, Jesus Christ will be the final Judge (Acts 17:31; John 5:21-22; Acts 10:42).

Are Mormons Christians?


Gordon B. Hinckley, prior President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1995-2008), said:

“We are Christians in a very real sense and that is coming to be more and more widely recognized. Once upon a time people everywhere said we are not Christians. (“The traditional Christ of whom they (Christians) speak is not the Christ of whom I speak” Gordon B. Hinckley.)   They have come to recognize that we are, and that we have a very vital and dynamic religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. We, of course, accept Jesus Christ as our Leader, our King, our Savior...the dominant figure in the history of the world, the only perfect Man who ever walked the earth, the living Son of the living God. He is our Savior and our Redeemer through whose atoning sacrifice has come the opportunity of eternal life. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints pray and worship in the name of Jesus Christ. He is the center of our faith and the head of our Church. The Book of Mormon is Another Testament of Jesus Christ and witnesses of His divinity, His life, and His Atonement.”

          I get, as I suppose I should, very up set with Satan when he convinces people, like the Mormons, that God would be satisfied with just enough but not quite what He wants.  I think that I have given enough here to remind people of the “Doctrines of Devils”[11] no matter how well intentioned or disguised they are.  The God of the Bible will deal with the “deceivers”[12] as He promised.  

 
Read answers by Christians who have come out of the Mormon Church.
 
James Walker, former 4th generation Mormon, President of Watchman Fellowship; WWW.Watchman.org.

1. Mormons believe the God was a man before He was God.  The belief of Celestial Exaltation says that a man and his wife or wives can earn their way to become god and goddess over their own earth. This is called the Law of Eternal Progression.

2. You have to establish you have paid your full tithe of 10% of your gross income before you are allowed into the temple.  The drinking of coffee or tea will disqualify you from entrance the temple.

3. Mormons believe that true Christianity disappeared after the death of the apostles and had to be restored by Joseph Smith.

4. Mormons believe in baptism by proxy for the dead.

5. Joseph Smith said the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost are not the same person.

6. Jesus was married to three women (Martha, Mary and Mary Magdalene), according to some early Mormon apostles.

7. Mormons believe we are all children of our heavenly father and heavenly mother.  Humans are God in embryo.

Sandra Tanner, Great, great, granddaughter of Brigham Young who was the Second prophet of the Mormon Church

1. The Jesus of the Mormons is just one of a whole string of gods.

2. Mormons believe that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three totally distinct and separate entities.

3. Eternal life in the Mormon Church means godhood.

4. Mormons cannot drink coffee, tea or alcohol.

5. According to Mormonism, Jesus had to attain godhood, the same as his father did, and the same as we can.

6. ‘Individual Salvation’ in Mormonism is: Christ’s death and resurrection, plus your own righteous acts.

Dr. Lynn Wilder, Former associate professor at Brigham Young University.

1. There are many contradictions between the Bible and the Mormon scriptures.

2. Mormons believe God the Father had a wife.

3. Mormons believe that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book on earth and that the Bible is subject to not being correct. The Book of Mormon would be put above the Bible.

4. There are three other Mormon scriptures as well.  The book of Doctrines and Covenants is where most Mormon doctrine comes from.

6.  The curse of Cain, to Mormons, used to mean black skin: until 1978.

Michael Wilder, Former leader and temple worker in the Mormon Church, served on the high council

1. There is a huge conflict between being a Biblical Christian and being a Mormon.

2.  I believed I could progress to become a god.

3. You are only taught doctrine as you progress through the priesthood.

4. “The only true and living church, upon the face of the earth today is the Mormon Church.” This was supposedly spoken to Joseph Smith by Jesus. Doctrines and Covenants 130 section 1 verse 30

5. ‘General Salvation in Mormonism is: the gift of resurrection to all men, all women, whether they believe in Christ or not. Salvation is not by grace.  ‘Individual Salvation’ in Mormonism is: by your own righteous acts you are now earning a higher kingdom.  You work your way to the Celestial Kingdom.

Quotes by famous Mormons -

Gordon B. Hinkley, Prophet, Seer, Revelator and 15th. President of the Mormon Church said: He “does not believe in the traditional Christ”.  Which Jesus does he believe in? June of 1998, “The traditional Christ of whom they (Christians) speak is not the Christ of whom I speak”. “Logic and reason would certainly suggest that if we have a Father in heaven, we have a mother in heaven.” 

Lorenzo Snow, 5th. President of the Mormon Church, and Apostle LeGrand Richards.  “As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.” 

Joseph Smith, Founder of the Mormon Church.

“God, himself, was once as we are now and is an exalted man and sits enthroned in yonder heaven.  I’m going to tell you how God came to be God.  We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea and take away the veil so that you may see he was once a man like us and you have to learn how to be God’s yourselves.”  “You have got to learn to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a greater one.” “I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion: and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts than by any other book.”  

Joseph Fielding Smith, 10th Prophet of the Mormon Church

“Our Father in heaven, according to the prophet, had a father, and since there has been a condition of this kind through all eternity, each father had a father.”

Brigham Young, Second Prophet of the Mormon Church

“The Lord created you and me for the purpose of becoming Gods like himself.  We are created to become Gods like unto our Father in heaven.”

Brigham Young, (Journal of Discourses 3:93)

“With regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than this so-called Christian world.”  “The Lord created you and me for the purpose of becoming gods like himself, when we have been proved in our present capacity, and been faithful with all things he puts into our possession. We are created; we are born for the express purpose of growing up from the low estate of manhood, to become gods like our father in heaven.”  

Bruce R. McConkie, Apostle in the Mormon Church

“Salvation in the celestial kingdom…is not salvation by grace alone.  Rather, it is salvation by grace coupled with obedience to the laws and ordinances of the (Mormon) gospel.” “From the days of the prophet Joseph even until now it has been the doctrine of the church never questioned by any of the church leaders, that the Negroes are not entitled to the full blessings of the gospel.”  “Negroes in this life are denied the priesthood, under no circumstance can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.  The gospel message of salvation is not carried affirmatively to them.  Negroes are not equal with other races.”   “God the father is a perfected, glorified, holy man, an immortal personage; and Christ was born into this world as the literal son of this holy being. He was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity. He was begotten, conceived, and born in the normal and natural course of events, for he is the son of God and that designation means what it says.”(Mormon Doctrine page 742)

          As far as I can determine, Jesus Christ would not qualify to be a temple participating Mormon.

           The vast majority of the information presented here came from, the Bible, Mormon literature, Lamb and Lion Ministries http://www.lamblion.com , Eric Barger’s Take a Stand Ministries http://www.ericbarger.com , and John Ankerberg http://www.jashow.org , as well as others on the internet and the book Kingdom of the Cults.


[1] John Ankerberg
[2] Matthew 24:24
[3] Webster’s on line dictionary
[4] Matthew 28:19, John 1:1-4
[5] Hebrews 6:13
[6] EveryStudent.com
[7] 2 Timothy 3: 16-17
[8] Ephesians 2:9
[9] 2 Timothy 3:5
[10] 2 Corinthians 5:8
[11] 1 Timothy 4:1
[12] 2 John 1: 7-11, 2 Peter 2:1-22, Luke 17: 1-2, Matthew 18:7
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Trust In The Lord No Matter What

(Written as a letter to one of my children, but shared now as a part of my own reflections in life, in hopes that it might be of some encouragement to others, as well as my son.)

Dear Shawn,

The other day I read statements made by Nathaniel and you, which gave me food for thought. He had said that he felt blessed because his house was still standing after a storm. You had responded with a question something like, "Would you have felt damned by God if it had been destroyed by the storm?" I later wondered what your own answer to such a question may have been.

Sunday I heard a really good sermon by James Merrit on what it means to really trust in the Lord no matter what one's situation or circumstances may be in life. As a result, I not only began to reflect back upon the short discourse between you and Nathaniel, but also back upon a time when I believe God once spoke one of His truths to me. Having shared this with you before, I seek to share it with you once again.

Coming home from work one day when you were about five or six, I reached out to open the door. Before I could turn the door knob, God spoke to my heart saying, "If you were to loose this house and everything in it, God would still be God.” Though I did not understand the full significance of what He said, I remember simply thinking, “Okay God, I don’t understand why you are saying this to me, but I believe it and accept it as truth because you have spoken it.”

Over the years to come, He would remind me of what He had said, and little by little, He continues to help me understand its significance in my life, and why He would impart that seed of His truth to me in such a personal way. All of us are going to have good and bad times in our lives that may cause us to stop and ponder why God allows those hurtful things to happen. I am learning the truth of how God is eternal and therefore His ways and thoughts are higher than ours. I don’t believe God causes bad things to happen to us. Instead, I have come to understand that we live in a corrupt and decaying world where evil exists. In this world, when it rains, the rain lands on both the believer and the unbeliever alike. The difference is found neither in the circumstances caused by the storms of life, nor in the resulting possible destruction, but in our response to the One who is in control of it all. We can either choose to walk in the fear of the storm, curse God for the destruction and wallow in doubt and despair, or we can choose to trust God and praise Him no matter what. It’s having this assurance that God is not defined or limited by our circumstances or situations. It’s having the confidence that God is in control, and He can use even the bad things that happen to draw us closer to Him for His purposes to be accomplished and fulfilled in our lives. It’s the gentle, but ever persistent, working of the Holy Spirit as He reveals to each of us the loving and tender mercies of our Savior as He remains closer than a friend, holding our hands to guide us through each and every struggle in life.

I can’t sell Jesus to anyone, but I can tell you that His saving power is free to anyone who seeks Him. I can’t force anyone to believe or trust in Him, but I can testify about what He has done and continues to do in my life. I can say with absolute confidence that I know that I am His and He is mine, not out of arrogance, self-righteousness or my own strength, but out of faith in His strength and love. Witnessing to others about what Jesus has done in my life is a natural outpouring that comes from wanting others to know that what He has done for me, He will gladly do for others. It’s not that I am special but that He is special.

I can tell you that when my Daddy lashed out with hurtful words just before I was leaving to join your Daddy in Germany, it was God that revealed to me that the angry words were really words of frustration from a loving Daddy who did not know how to express his words of love and concern at no longer being able to be there to control what may or may not happen to me in a land so far away.

When I gave birth to Candace, your baby sister having so many severe birth defects that she could not live more than an hour; I could have easily blamed God and become bitter with grief. But Jesus was there to lift that burden, until He knew I was strong enough to go through the natural process of grieving for her. He gave me the eternal vision of her healed, healthy, and happy in His loving and caring arms. He gave me the “spirit of praise” to replace the “spirit of heaviness.”

Against the advice of doctors, Daddy and I chose to have another baby and we were blessed with you. Even before I went to the doctor to confirm the pregnancy, God gave the assurance that you were fine, and I was not to worry. I can honestly say that God’s assurance of His care for you was so strong that I never doubted Him for one moment.

There have been times when I wondered “Where are you Lord, and why are you allowing this to happen? Upon one of these occasions, God used a friend to remind me that God was there and doing His work. I had to learn to be patient, to wait upon the Lord, and trust in Him even when I could not see evidence that He was still in control. With words of wisdom, I was granted the peace that passes understanding that only comes from the Lord. Those words spoken by a friend were: “God is there in the midst of this. You have to remember that He knows the beginning from the end, and you just have to realize that you can’t see it for you are yet in the middle of the tunnel.” Once again, in His own timing God did work things out for the best, and far better than I could have imagined. Just because we don’t think the answer is coming fast enough, or He doesn’t answer us with the outcome that we had hoped for, doesn’t mean that He doesn’t hear our pleas. These are but a few times that God has used to help me learn to trust in Him, and believe that He will work things out for my good. God is not a respecter of persons. As the song goes, “What He’s done for others, He will do for you.”

I saw a man on TV yesterday right after his home had been wiped out by a tornado. The reporter interviewing him could not believe how upbeat the man was even after such a devastating event. The man remarked that he was a Christian and could not be depressed about the loss of something that could be replaced when the Lord had spared his life. That spoke to my heart. My further thoughts were that even if the event had taken his life, he and his loved ones could still rejoice because of God’s promise to every believer that “to be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord.” Who could have any lasting sorrow about going home to be with the Lord? When we truly trust in Him as Savior and Lord, He gives us that focus on eternity for He is an eternal God. The things of this world are but temporary and merely act as a training ground to give us the opportunity to choose whether we are going to believe in Him and accept his plan for our salvation, or choose to go our own way independent of Him.

Whatever my personal circumstances may be, they are but a speck in time when compared to the time of eternity. No matter what trials or hard times I may face, I can never say that they are as great as or greater than what Jesus suffered for me. He gave up the glories of Heaven to come down here to our corrupt world. He knew what He was going to have to suffer, and yet he did it anyway just because He loved us so much. Even though He realized that He was going to be persecuted, crucified, and even rejected by some, He prayed to His Father, “not my will but thine be done.” He showed us what it means to really trust in our heavenly Father. Though we may suffer through some pretty bad times during our earthly lives, they dim and vanish into nothingness when compared to what marvelous wonders God has prepared for us in Heaven.

Though your question, “Would you feel damned if your house had been destroyed by the storm?”,was not directed to me, it was used to initiate a search into what my own response to the question would be. As time goes on, I pray that I may live out my life in such a way that produces evidence that, by God’s mercy and grace, demonstrates a life lived by trusting in God no matter what the circumstances. May God grant me His forgiveness for the many times that I have failed to do so. Because of Jesus, my hope is not based on the benefits, happiness, or success that I may or may not experience in this life. Those things are all temporary and vanish into thin air with the last breathe of my life on Earth. Instead, by the grace of God, my eternal hope and joy is not in what the world gives, but rather is rooted and grounded in the hope and joy that can only come from God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. May I always give praise, honor, and glory to God for He alone, and not myself, is worthy of praise.

My son, may this letter be used by the Lord, to speak directly to your heart and cause you to hunger and thirst after Him. May His peace and love dwell in you richly.

I Love You,
Your Mommy


I found the following scripture that confirmed again for me what God was trying to tell me when he said,
“If you loose this house and all that is in it, God will still be God”:

Habakkuk 3: 17-19

“Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labor of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls;” (Boy! These are all pretty bad circumstances aren’t they? Yet look at what he says in the very next two verses.)

“Yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation. The Lord God is my strength, and He will make my feet like hinds’ (deer’s) feet, and He will make me to walk upon my high places.”

The following is a commentary in my Bible expounding on the above scriptures:

“Crop failure and the death of flocks would devastate Judah. But Hubakkuk affirmed that even in times of starvation, he would still rejoice in the Lord. Hubakkuk’s feelings were not controlled by the events around him but by faith in God’s ability to give him strength. When nothing makes sense, and when troubles seem more than you can bear, remember that God gives strength. Take your eyes off your difficulties and look to God.
God will give his followers surefooted confidence through difficult times. At the proper time, God will bring about His justice and completely rid the world of evil. In the meantime, God’s people need to live in the strength of His Spirit, confident in His ultimate victory over evil.
We cannot see all that God is doing, and we cannot see all that God will do. But we can be assured that He is God and will do what is right. Knowing this brings us confidence and hope in a confusing world.”

“To God be the glory, great things He has done!!!”

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Monday, March 5, 2012

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Jew Envy


          The development of "replacement theology" is a result of the envy of the relationship the Jews have with God.  The basic tenant of this misguided, man made teaching, is the false teaching that since Jesus came, the relationship the Jews had with God, has been replaced by the Christian Church.  You have to really twist some of the Bible verses to get to this. For this to be true, God would have to be a liar.

          Just because something is claimed to be Christian doesn’t mean that it is Christian.  There are many instances throughout the ages where people have misinterpreted the Bible; whether well intentioned, or for some form of gain.  The apostle Paul said: “I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”[1]  “For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.”[2]

          “Supersessionism is a Christian theology that contrasts with Dual-covenant theology. Biblical expressions of God's relationships with people are known as covenants, so the contentious element of supersessionism is the idea that the New Covenant with Christendom replaces the Mosaic Covenant with the Israelites and Proselytes.

          Supersessionism is also called fulfillment theology and replacement theology, though the latter term is disputed. It is a Christian interpretation of New Testament verses, viewing God's relationship with Christians as being the inheritance of the Christian Church of the promises made to the Jews (or Biblical Israelites) and Jewish Proselytes. A major question related to supersessionism is how or to what degree are the teachings of the Mosaic Covenant displaced or even completely abrogated by the New Covenant and the Law of Christ.”[3]  Jesus said He had not come to do away with the law, but to fulfill it.

          “Replacement Theology - reduced to its simplest form - teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. The term “Replacement Theology” is relatively new and unfamiliar to many people (in some cases, even those who believe in it). Among theologians, the older and more widely used term is “supersessionism.” The Church “supersedes” Israel. Its proponents teach that God has set aside Israel and made the Church “new Israel,” the new and improved people of God. There are many variations within the broad spectrum of Replacement Theology, but two of the main approaches are these:

1. Israel’s role as the people of God was completed (economic supersessionism). This is the kinder and gentler way of stating the basic thesis of Replacement Theology. It says that once the Messiah came 2,000 years ago, Israel’s mission was completed. A transition occurred at that point, and the Church took over as the people of God and became the focal point for the outworking of God’s plan and purpose in redemption. God is no longer working administratively through ethnic Israel.

2. Israel’s place as the people of God was forfeited (punitive supersessionism). Other Replacement theologians are more straightforward and actually say that the supposed replacement of Israel was a divine judgment on the nation for its rejection of the Messiah in the first century. This is what some writers have called ‘punitive secessionism.’”[4]

          The Jews are the children of the covenant God first promised to Abraham.  The Arabs, on the other hand are the children of a different covenant given to Ishmael for the sake of his mother, being a maidservant to Abraham.  The contention, over the centuries, has developed because of the two different covenants, because only one was to be The Chosen People of God.  I have a hard time figuring out who is who, and what line the differing peoples are in the area.  Hagar chose an Egyptian wife for Ishmael, which meant that the Egyptians were there before Ishmael.  Today Egypt is known as an Arab nation[5].  This leads to the speculation that Egypt, and other nations in the area, is not Arab but some other race of peoples since they are not descendants of Ishmael. 

          Esau represents another covenant yet.  The blessing given to Esau, because Jacob “stole” his inheritable covenant blessing, led him to establish another people separate and apart from the Jews.  He married Mahalath, the daughter of Ishmael, and became a part of the Arab peoples.  From this we see that the claim of the Moslems, to be descendants of Abraham is valid, because Mohammad was a descendant of Ishmael. 

          We can see, from the above, that Jew envy may be nothing more than glorified sibling rivalry.  The Islamists have a doctrine known as WAQF, which means once a territory is Moslem it is Moslem forever.  Under this doctrine all of the land God gave to Israel would belong to the Jewish people today. Since we all know Allah is not God and therefore cannot direct the affairs of men, we must submit to the authority of the real God of the Bible.  Recognizing this truth, we see that Israel will never be “wiped off the face of the earth” as the Islamists contend.

          Gentile is a term used by many to refer to anyone who is not a believer in their God, as well as a believer who did not start out as a Jew.  For me this is offensive as, to me, it means one doesn’t believe in the One True and Living God of the Jews and Christians.  The Bible says that the salvation of Jesus is available to both the Jew and the gentile.  If you are a gentile, and accept Jesus, you don’t remain a gentile but become a believer.  Non Jews who accept Christ are grafted into the vine where God is the root and foundation.[6]  Christ came to the Jew first and then to the gentile.[7]  We can see from this, that when someone becomes a Christian, he becomes part of the vine; he does not replace the vine.  I guess that Christians could be looked upon as a sect of Judaism; one who has recognized and accepted the Messiah. Therefore, don’t reject the Jews, become one.  Become, as it says in Romans 2:28-29, circumcised in your heart.


[1] Romans 11:1
[2] Romans 11:29
[3] Wikipedia
[4] Replacement Theology Its Origins, Teachings and Errors By Dr. Gary Hedrick ,President of CJF Ministries http://www.shema.com/Combating%20Replacement%20Theology/crt-004.php
[5] According to Wikipedia
[6] Romans 11:22-23
[7] Romans 2:10
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Alcohol And Drugs


          When it comes to alcohol and drug addiction, the problem is not the substance itself but rather the lack of self control.  Yes, there are those who unwittingly fall into the clutches of addiction, but choices along the way are the contributing factors.  Drinking is not evil, but drunkenness is.  Drugs, especially prescription drugs, are not the problem but rather the abuse of those drugs.  Government to the rescue: heroine, because it wasn’t addicting, was introduced after the civil war to get soldiers off of their addiction to morphine.  Kudzu and love bugs also were governmental attempts to help out in problem areas.  For almost six thousand years, drugs were not illegal.  They obviously had a purpose, or God wouldn’t have placed them here.  Once again: government to the rescue.   

          It used to make me angry that antibiotics, codeine, and barbiturates were available over the counter in places like Mexico and Japan but under Rx only here in the US.  If we can freely medicate with alcohol, why not with the rest?  Perhaps the American citizen is just not as intelligent as the Mexicans and Japanese.  There might be one more thought on this subject.  Perhaps the American Medical Association has lobbyists that help it maintain their monopoly in distributing drugs.  My doctor recently told me that he would not be prescribing codeine for my arthritic and orthopedic pain as the government is cracking down on drug abuse. Do thirty pills every six months to a year qualify as drug abuse?  It’s just a fact that the pills he gives me now just don’t work as well, even when I take three Tylenol with them.

          I do have some experience with alcohol.  My father was a drunk during most of his life.  Very few people have ever seen me take more than two or three drinks in any one evening (even when the drinks were free).  There have been two times that I did drink more and I will explain.  The first instance was when I was in the army and decided to find out what my father got out of his drinking.  I sat outside of the houch, where I was staying, with a quart of Jim Beam and 6 bottles (three liters) of German beer.  After I drank it, some of the guys asked me to go with them to the enlisted men’s club for a drink.  No buzz, no fun, no nuttin!  Later while attending an Al-Anon meeting with my mother, I related the story.  I was informed that with a capacity like that, I was an alcoholic in waiting.  According to them, over the years, the capacity would diminish and the alcohol would take over.  The second instance was about two years ago.  Where I worked, most of the people were heavy drinkers.  I accompanied several of them on a business trip and found that they thought it was time to get Rick drunk.  I know it was foolish but decided to pray (keeping in mind that the Bible doesn’t forbid drinking, but does speak against getting drunk) about my safety and participate in their contest.  To make a long story short, I wasn’t the one who passed out and fell and hurt his head.  I was the one who picked him up.  Upon the council of my wife, and the reinstallation of good sense, I will not be attempting this again. 

A few appropriate quotes seem relevant here.

“First you take a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes you.” George Washington

“Drunkenness is nothing but voluntary madness.” Seneca the Younger (Roman philosopher, mid-1st century AD)

“One reason I don't drink is that I want to know when I'm having a good time.” Nancy Astor

“People who drink to drown their sorrow should be told that sorrow knows how to swim.” Ann Landers

“Alcohol gives you infinite patience for stupidity.” Sammy Davis, Jr.

“Alcohol is necessary for a man so that he can have a good opinion of himself, undisturbed by the facts.” Finley Peter Dunne

“A hangover is the wrath of grapes.”  Author Unknown

“The first thing in the human personality that dissolves in alcohol is dignity.”  Author Unknown

“If you drink, don't drive.  Don't even putt.”  Dean Martin

Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.”  Proverbs 20:1

“Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.” Proverbs 23:31-33

He that loveth pleasure shall be a poor man: he that loveth wine and oil shall not be rich.” Proverbs 21:17

As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouth of fools.” Proverbs 26:9

          We all know that wine was used by many people in the Bible, but was condemned when used in any manor other than moderation.  Jesus, King David, Paul and the disciples, among others, drank wine.  Jesus’ first miracle was to convert water into wine. Paul said to Timothy: “Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses”

“Am I self-righteous? Why not? It's not like I can count on you to be righteous for me”.[1]  We can see from the above that just having a drink is not evil.  However, the misuse of drugs and alcohol is the problem, and many have succumbed to their wiles. We must realize that all things in moderation is the answer, to preventing the addiction from ever beginning. 


[1] Henry Rollins
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Tuesday, February 28, 2012

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Hell


          Hell, Hades, Scheol[1], and Gehenna[2] all have just about the same meaning.  Lake of eternal fire’ or ‘Eternal Damnation’ would be the everlasting name for what most of us think of as Hell in the future.  Revelation 14: 10-11 essentially says:  smoke, smell of flesh burning, and fire forever; weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, and there is no hope.  As I have said before, the eternal separation from God may be the worst of all. 

          Habakkuk, David and I all ask God the same question. Why do you let the evil ones prosper?  Perhaps it is because, as some people say, there is some good in everyone.  Perhaps we just need to wait until God explains things to us, when we get to heaven.  The Bible says that all things are a part of God’s plan.  His wisdom is not for us to understand; as yet.

          Hell was prepared for the Devil and his followers (his angels).  It had to be expanded to accommodate the number of people who would knowingly reject His salvation.  “According to the History book, Lucifer was not satisfied to be just one of the top angels[3].  There was an ensuing power struggle between Lucifer and God.  As you might have guessed, God won and Lucifer and those who chose his side were expelled from heaven.  Today’s demons are the angels that chose the wrong side.”[4]  If you have not received Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you have rejected Him.

            The Bible talks about Hell 167 times and Jesus himself talked about Hell 33 times.  I know that humankind is extant with those who don’t believe in God, the Bible, the devil or anything else that doesn’t fit into their own view of what life should be.  I guess those who want to be left alone will be left to their own devices until that time when every knee shall bow[5]. 

          Who is going to eternal damnation?  Anyone, in today’s world, who dies without being ‘born again’, will.  Salvation, through the blood of Jesus, is available to anyone willing to accept this free gift.[6]

          I have one thing on my bucket list.  I want to know that all members of my family, my friends, and as many strangers as possible will be saved from eternal damnation.


[1] the Old Testament/Hebrew bible's underworld – Wikipedia
[2] Biblical term that has been interpreted as analogous to the concept of "Hell " – Wikipedia
[3] Isaiah 14:13-14
[4] Ricksrantings 5-14-2010 “Satan”
[5] Romans 14:11
[6] John 3:16, Romans 10:9
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Monday, February 13, 2012

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Satan And Us

        People say that the United States is not a Christian nation.  That is an outright satanic lie.  What they say is, we are a melting pot of all kinds of people and religions.   Here is how a melting pot works. Melting pots operate by the following:

1. Put everything into one pot

2. Apply heat

3. As the contents of the pot heat the pure substance sinks to the bottom while the impurities rise to the top.

4. The impurities are then skimmed off so that the pure of the wanted substance can be obtained.

We can see that in the formation of our nation, the Biblical purity of the Judeo/Christian principals were what was used as the basis for our laws, liberties, our rights and the formation of our government system.  The impurities were skimmed off, and the United States was created.  Since the God of the Bible was so instrumental in our founding, we can see why Satan is so determined to destroy us.

          “Satan is the personification of wickedness.  Satan, the Jetzer Hara (evil impulse), and the Angel of death are all one.”[1]  The Talmud explains that we should never rebuke Satan on our own, but to call on God Almighty to rebuke him.  Through Christ we are given the authority to rebuke Satan in the name of Jesus.  Again, from the Talmud, Satan can only be in one place at a time and therefore must have many emissaries to do his bidding, and that good angels accompany the righteous and evil angels the wicked. 

          “Satan has three functions: he seduces men, he accuses them before God, he inflicts the punishment of death.”[2] “The forces of good and evil (God and Satan) are at work around us at all times.  It is hard, sometimes, to rebuke the subtle forces around us in order to do the right thing.  We must keep the word of God constantly in our hearts, in order to allow the Holy Spirit to triumph.  If we should slip, we have the knowledge that our mistakes are covered by the Blood of Jesus.”[3]

“You can’t get rid of sin if you treat it like a creampuff instead of a rattlesnake.”[4]

          When you are confronted with truth versus fiction: choose truth.  As I have said before, the difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance is the lack of information and stupidity is the lack of ability to use information.  In the movie “Forest Gump” he said, “stupid is as stupid does”.  It is my opinion that ignorance is not acceptable to the Lord and that most stupidity is self induced.  He didn’t design us to be stupid and even supplied us with all the knowledge we needed about Him, in the Bible.  He gave us the scriptures to point out our ignorance and sent Jesus to give us a way to overcome our stupidity. 

          Satan is not stupid.  Over his long existence he has gained a lot of knowledge, and the ability to use it.  He has been around longer than you,  seen more than you, knows the Bible better than you, and knows you better than you do.  He knows your desires and your weaknesses.  He, most times, will not tempt you with something that is obviously and blatantly against what you know to be wrong.  He will look for any opening to entice you with something that, on the surface, looks good, but is not the best that God has for you.  Once he has done this enough times, and you are used to being seduced in this manner, he will move on to bigger things, and other methods. 

          We need to flee from Satan’s three favorite types of sinful temptation:  idolatry, sexual immorality/youthful lusts, and greed.  Anything can become an idol if we place it above God in importance.  Fornication is the act of sex before marriage while adultery is the same act after marriage, when performed with someone other than your spouse.  One of the main reasons you don’t commit fornication and adultery is that The Lord said He would never leave you or forsake you[5]; do you really want to drag the Holy Spirit into a bawdy house?  Desire for your spouse is not lust; its righteous, God approved, yearning.  Greed could be said to be an inordinate desire for more.  The Lord said He would supply all of our needs; is this not enough.  I have heard it said that he who dies with the most toys wins.  Build your wealth in heavenly things rather than earthly toys.  As I heard Billy Graham say; I have never seen a hearse pulling a U-haul trailer to the graveyard. 

          It was a premeditated act when Jesus cleared out the temple.  He had stopped and made a whip out of chords before He attacked.  This is a prime example of righteous indignation.  When you see a wrong that is hurting God’s people, such as the apostate church or turning God’s house into a sales convention, it is an act of righteous indignation (anger) to act against that indignation like Jesus did.  It is our duty to fight and disrupt the Devil when he attempts to fight and disrupt the will of God.

          It was easier when we were kids to recognize good and evil.  In the cowboy movies (generally speaking), the good guys wore the white hats and the bad guys wore the black hats.  Today people who sit on the fence, instead of making a decision for one side or the other, are wearing grey hats.  Indecision is not the Lord’s will, and grey hats represent indecision[6].  If you come to the Lord, He will lift you off of the fence.  If you stay on the fence or fall off the fence, you will be lost[7].  We are offered the choice of life or death.  Please choose life: I would rather spend eternity, in Heaven, with you, than without you. 

          Jesus said He did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill the law[8].  He also said He did not come to condemn the world, but to save it[9].  You are part of the world he came to save[10].  Satan would rather have you continue to sit on the fence or fall off of it.  Jesus does not condemn you, but Satan does[11].  


[1] Everyman’s Talmud pg. 54
[2] Everyman’s Talmud
[3] Romans 8:1-4
[4] Billy Sunday
[5] Deuteronomy 31:8, Hebrews 13:5
[6] Mark 9:40
[7] Revelation 3:16
[8] Matthew 5:17
[9] John 3:17
[10] John 3:16
[11] Revelation 12:10, Job 2:1, 1 Peter 5:8,
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